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Ida DE TOSNY

Female 1160 - 1204  (44 years)


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  • Name Ida DE TOSNY 
    Born 1160 
    Gender Female 
    Died 1204 
    Notes 
    • Wikipedia (08/04/2016):
      "Ida de Tosny, Countess of Norfolk was very likely a daughter of Ralph V de Tosny (died 1162) and his wife Margaret (born circa 1125 and living in 1185), a daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester.

      Ida de Tosny was a royal ward and mistress of Henry II, King of England, by whom she was mother of one of his illegitimate sons, William Longespée, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, (b c. 1176-March 7, 1226). For many years, until the discovery of a charter of William mentioning "Comitissa Ida, mater mea" (Countess Ida, my mother), it was assumed that Rosamund Clifford, a previous mistress of Henry's, was the mother, but painstaking genealogical detective work has since shown otherwise. Ida was not the first English royal ward to be taken as a royal mistress. Isabel de Beaumont (Elizabeth de Beaumont), daughter of Robert de Beaumont, who fought at the Battle of Hastings with the Conqueror, was the ward of King Henry I and the mistress of one of his sons.

      Around Christmas 1181, Ida de Tosny was given in marriage to Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk by Henry II, together with the manors of Acle, Halvergate and South Walsham, which had been confiscated from his inheritance after his father's death (Hugh Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk). Ida and Roger had a number of children including:
      -Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk who married in 1206 or 1207, Maud Marshal, a daughter of William Marshal
      -William Bigod
      -Ralph Bigod
      -Roger Bigod
      -Margery Bigod, married William de Hastings
      -Mary Bigod, married Ralph fitz Robert

      Many historians, including Marc Morris have speculated that the couple had a third daughter, Alice, who married Aubrey de Vere IV, 2nd Earl of Oxford as his second wife. If so, the marriage would have been well within the bounds of consanguinity, for the couple would have been quite closely related, a daughter of the second earl of Norfolk being first cousin once removed to the second earl of Oxford."
    Person ID I11880  Lowell&Block
    Last Modified 28 Mar 2023 

    Father Ralph IV DE TOSNY, Lord of Flamstead,   b. 1132,   d. 1162  (Age 30 years) 
    Mother Margaret or Marguerite or Margareta de BEAUMONT, Lady Margaret of Leicester,   b. 1125,   d. Aft 1185  (Age > 61 years) 
    Married Aft 1155 
    Family ID F9653  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Henry II, King of England, Duke of Normandy & Aquitaine,   b. 5 Mar 1132/3, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Jul 1189, Château de Chinon, Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 56 years) 
    Children 
     1. William LONGESPÉE, Knight, 3rd Earl of Salisbury,   b. Abt 1175/80,   d. 7 Mar 1225/6, Salisbury Castle, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 46 years)
    Family ID F4129  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Roger BIGOD, 2nd Earl of Norfolk,   b. c. 1144/1150,   d. 1221  (Age ~ 71 years) 
    Married 1181 
    Children 
     1. Hugh BIGOD, 3rd Earl of Norfolk,   b. Abt 1182,   d. Feb 1225  (Age ~ 43 years)
     2. William BIGOD
     3. Ralph BIGOD
     4. Roger BIGOD
     5. Margery BIGOD
     6. Mary BIGOD
     7. Alice BIGOD
    Last Modified 12 Apr 2023 
    Family ID F15045  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart