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Herbert or Heribert I, Count of Vermandois

Male Abt 850 - 907  (~ 50 years)


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  • Name Herbert or Heribert I  
    Suffix Count of Vermandois 
    Born Abt 850 
    Gender Male 
    Died Between 900 and 907 
    Notes 
    • “HERIBERT, son of PEPIN [Carolingian] Seigneur de Péronne et de St Quentin, Comte near Paris ([848/850]-murdered [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Héribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis". "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris. He was at the court of Emperor Charles II “le Chauve” in 877. Comte de Soissons 886/898. Abbé de St Crépin. Comte de Meaux et de Madrie 888/889. He became Comte de Vermandois in 896. The Annales Vedastini record that "Rodulfus comes" disrupted the peace in 896 and took the property of "Heribertus et Erkingerus", that "Odo rex" besieged "castrum sancti Quintini et Peronam" and expelled Raoul's supporters, and that Héribert killed Raoul. Comte Héribert opposed Eudes King of France, but was reconciled with the king in 897, an event which may have been confirmed by the marriage of Héribert's daughter to the king's nephew Robert. Baudouin II Count of Flanders attacked Vermandois, was driven out by 900 but reconquered it and killed Héribert [I] Comte de Vermandois in revenge for his brother's death.
      m [LIETGARDIS], daughter of --- (-27 May ----). The name of the wife of Comte Héribert is not known. However, a "Comtesse Liedgardis", different from the daughter of Comte Héribert [II], is named who could have been his wife. If this is correct, the necrology of Reims which records the death "VI Kal Jun" of "Letgardis comitissa", may refer to the same person. According to the Histoire de Guise, Albert Comte de Vermandois constructed the abbey of Saint-Michel at Rochefort in 945 "d''accord avec la comtesse Hérésinde sa femme", while in 947 Hérésinde founded the nearby Benedictine convent of Bucilly. The source assumes that this refers to Albert Comte de Vermandois, but his supposed marriage to Hérésinde is not mentioned bby Settipani. According to the introduction to the Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Bucilly, Bucilly was founded by "Gerberge, femme d'Albert I Comte de Vermandois" although it notes that "certains auteurs ont voulu faire remonter [sa foundation] à la libéralité de Hersinde femme d'Herbert Comte de Vermandois morte en 901". No other reference has been found to Hérésinde being the wife of Comte Héribert ]I].
      Comte Héribert [I] & his wife had four children:
      1. HERIBERT [II] ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin). None of the sources so far consulted states explicitly that Heribert [II] and his sister Beatrix were the children of Heribert [I] but this looks probable. He succeeded his father in [900/907] as Comte de Meaux, de Soissons et de Vermandois.
      - see below.
      2. BEATRIX de Vermandois ([880/83]-after 26 Mar 931). None of the sources so far consulted state explicitly that Heribert [II] and his sister Beatrix were the children of Heribert [I] but this looks probable. Her birth date range is estimated from her eldest daughter giving birth to her own first child in [915]. The Historia Francorum Senonensis records that "sororem Herberti" was the wife of "Robertus princeps" who rebelled against Charles III "le Simple" King of France. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Duke Robert's wife was the sister of Héribert, and that the couple had a son named Hugues. The marriage may have been arranged to confirm her father's reconciliation with Eudes King of France, who was her husband's uncle. Werner suggests [897] as the date of the marriage, on the assumption that it followed the political reconciliation between Béatrix's father and Robert's uncle. As discussed in relation to Robert's first marriage in the document CAPET, there is a possibility that Robert's first wife was still alive in 907, which would of course mean that Béatrix's marriage took place after that date. m ([897]) as his second wife, ROBERT Marquis en Neustrie, son of ROBERT “le Fort” Marquis en Neustrie & his wife --- ([860]-killed in battle near Soissons 15 Jun 923). Comte de Paris 898. He was elected 22 Jun 922 as ROBERT I King of France.
      3. [daughter [ADELA] . Jackman suggests[678] that the wife of Graf Gebhard [Konradiner] was the daughter of Héribert [I] Comte de Vermandois, although this appears supported only by onomastic indications. The name of Graf Gebhard's wife is noot given explicitly in the sources. However, an "Adela" is named in a name-list in the Reichenau memorial book dated [926/32] which appears to include members of the Konradiner family, Jackman suggesting that she is well placed in the list to be Graf Gebhard's wife, although this is not the only possible interpretation of the text. m GEBHARD Graf im Ufgau, son of EBERHARD Graf in der Ortenau [Konradiner] & his wife Wiltrud --- (-after 15 Jan 947).]
      4. [daughter [CUNIGUNDIS] ([890/900]-after 943). The Vermandois origin of Graf Udo's wife is suggested by the fact that Flodoard refers to the wife of "Uddone [frater Hermanno]" as amita of "Hugo [de Vermandois Archbishop of Reims]"[680]. The name of Graf Udo's wife is not given explicitly in the sources. However, a "Cunegundis" is named in a name-list in the Reichenau memorial book dated [926/32] which appears to include members of the Konradiner family, Jackman suggesting that she is well placed in the list to be Graf Gebhard's wife[681], although this is not the only possible interpretation of the text. Her birth date range is estimated from her estimated marriage date. m ([915]) UDO Graf in der Wetterau, son of GEBHARD Graf in der Wetterau [Konradiner] & his wife Hidda --- (-12 Dec 949).]”
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      From Wikipedia (7 Jun 2023)
      Herbert I, Count of Vermandois
      “Herbert I (c. 848/850 – 907) or Heribertus I, Count of Vermandois, Count of Meaux, Count of Soissons, and lay abbot of Saint Quentin. He was a Carolingian aristocrat who played a significant role in Francia.

      Herbert was the son of Pepin of Vermandois and one great-grandson of Pepin of Italy, son of Charlemagne. He was possibly a matrilineal descendant of the Nibelungids. His early life was unknown. Herbert became count of Soissons before 889 and was probably charged with defending the Oise against Viking intrusions. A contemporary of Baldwin II, Count of Flanders he had the advantage of being a Carolingian, a great-grandson of Pepin of Italy, a son of Charlemagne. Herbert controlled both St. Quentin and Péronne and his activities in the upper Somme river valley, such as the capture and murder (rather than ransom) of his brother Raoul in 896, may have caused Baldwin II to have him assassinated in 907.

      Herbert arranged a marriage alliance to Robert of Neustria by giving in marriage his daughter Beatrice as Robert's second wife. As a part of this pact Herbert also agreed to his son Herbert II of Vermandois marrying Adela, Robert's daughter by his first wife. Another daughter, Cunegonda, married Odo of Wetterau.[3]

      Issue
      By a possible Bertha:

      Beatrice of Vermandois (c. 880- aft. 26 March 931) married Robert of Neustria. Grandmother of Hugh Capet.
      Herbert II of Vermandois (d. 943), married Adela of Neustria
      Cunegonda of Vermandois, married Odo of Wetterau (c. 895-949)
    Person ID I12613  Lowell&Block
    Last Modified 7 Jun 2023 

    Father Pepin I,   b. Abt 815,   d. Aft 850  (Age ~ 36 years) 
    Mother ? ? 
    Family ID F4341  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family ? ? 
    Children 
     1. Herbert or Heribert II, Comte de Meaux, de Soissons et de Vermandois,   b. Abt 879, Vermandois, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Feb 943  (Age ~ 64 years)
     2. Beatrice or Beatrix, de Vermandois,   b. Between 880 and 883,   d. Aft 26 Mar 931  (Age ~ 51 years)
     3. Adela
     4. Cunigundis
    Family ID F4340  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart